From d3xter93 at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 14:49:18 2016 From: d3xter93 at gmail.com (Dexter D) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 14:49:18 +0300 Subject: [foss-general] =?utf-8?b?zpHOuc64zr/Phc+DzrE=?= Message-ID: ???????????? ?? ?????, ??? ?? ?????????? ???? ?? ??????? ?? ?????? ??? ??????? ?????? ?????????? ??????????????????, ????? ????? ???. ??????? ?????? ??? ??? ???????????????; dexter93 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vkonton at gmail.com Sun Oct 16 15:15:29 2016 From: vkonton at gmail.com (Vasilis Kontonis) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 15:15:29 +0300 Subject: [foss-general] =?utf-8?b?zpHOuc64zr/Phc+DzrE=?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9f45e201-e514-09d0-e550-dedbb9f8b46c@gmail.com> ?????, ?????? ????? ??? ?????????? ?? ?????? ???? ?????, ?? ????????? ??? ?? ????????? (???? ??????), ????? ?? ??? ???? ?? ???? ???. ?.(noscope) From gtsiour at softlab.ntua.gr Sun Oct 16 18:01:11 2016 From: gtsiour at softlab.ntua.gr (Yiannis Tsiouris) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 18:01:11 +0300 Subject: [foss-general] =?utf-8?b?zpHOuc64zr/Phc+DzrE=?= In-Reply-To: <9f45e201-e514-09d0-e550-dedbb9f8b46c@gmail.com> References: <9f45e201-e514-09d0-e550-dedbb9f8b46c@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20161016150111.53jn7wt4zl5k7jk5@d0g> lo On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 03:15:29PM +0300, Vasilis Kontonis wrote: > ?????? ????? ??? ?????????? ?? ?????? ???? ?????, ?? ????????? > ??? ?? ????????? (???? ??????), ????? ?? ??? ???? ?? ???? ???. +1 "????????" ?? ??????? ????? ????????! ???? ??? ???????????? ??? ??? ??????????? ??????... From mandragore at foss.ntua.gr Sun Oct 16 18:01:30 2016 From: mandragore at foss.ntua.gr (mandragore) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 18:01:30 +0300 Subject: [foss-general] =?utf-8?b?zpHOuc64zr/Phc+DzrE=?= In-Reply-To: <20161016150111.53jn7wt4zl5k7jk5@d0g> References: <9f45e201-e514-09d0-e550-dedbb9f8b46c@gmail.com> <20161016150111.53jn7wt4zl5k7jk5@d0g> Message-ID: <8c3bd1ea-0b76-43ef-559b-e2839c0b3dc9@foss.ntua.gr> On 10/16/2016 06:01 PM, Yiannis Tsiouris wrote: > lo > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 03:15:29PM +0300, Vasilis Kontonis wrote: >> ?????? ????? ??? ?????????? ?? ?????? ???? ?????, ?? ????????? >> ??? ?? ????????? (???? ??????), ????? ?? ??? ???? ?? ???? ???. > > +1 "????????" ?? ??????? ????? ????????! ???? ??? ???????????? ??? ??? > ??????????? ??????... > _______________________________________________ > foss-general mailing list > foss-general at lists.ntua.gr > https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general > ??????? ?? ??? ??? ???????. ?? ??????? ????? ???? ??? ???? ????? :'( From el10785 at mail.ntua.gr Mon Oct 17 12:09:24 2016 From: el10785 at mail.ntua.gr (Nikos Kormpakis) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:09:24 +0300 Subject: [foss-general] =?utf-8?b?zprOsc67zq4gzrHOus6xzrTOt868zrHPis66zq4g?= =?utf-8?b?z4fPgc6/zr3Ouc6sIGFuZCBzdHVmZg==?= Message-ID: ????????? ??? ???? ?????????? ?????? ??? ????? ????????????? ????? ?? ??????. 1) ????? 25/10 ?? ????? ???? ??????? ??????? ? ??????????? ??????? ????????? ???????? ??? ??????, ???? ??'??? ?????????? ???? ????? ???????? (eestec, ieee ???), ???? ??? ? ?????????, ???? ????? ?????? ???????? ????????, 2-3 ??????? ??????? ?? ?? ???????? ?????????, ??? ?????? ???. ??????? ?????????? ?? ????? ???? ????? ??? ??? ?????????; 2) ???? ??? ??????? ? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ???? ???? ?? ?????? ??? ???????? ??? ?????, ???? ?? ??? ????????? ?? 2 ??????? ??? ?????? ??????????? ??? ?? ????? ???????, ?? ??????? ???. 3) ???????????? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ??????????? ?????? ???????? ? ??? ?????????? ??? ??? ??? ?? ??????? ???????? ??? ??? ???? ??? ??? ?? ?? ????? ??? ?????? ????????? (monitoring with free software tools, puppet ??? ??????? ????). ?? ??????? ?????????? ??? ?????, ???? ??? ?????? guidelines ???? ??? ??? ??? ????? ???? ???? ??????, ?? ?? ??????????? ??? ?????. 4) ???? ?? ??????????? ?????? ????????? ??? ?????????? ???? ?? ????? ??? ????, ??? ?? ??????????? ??? ??? ?????? ??? ???; ~?? From el10046 at central.ntua.gr Tue Oct 18 21:06:41 2016 From: el10046 at central.ntua.gr (=?UTF-8?B?zpLOsc+Dzq/Ou861zrnOv8+CIM6nzrHPgc65z4PPjM+Azr/Phc67zr/Pgg==?=) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 21:06:41 +0300 Subject: [foss-general] =?utf-8?b?zprOsc67zq4gzrHOus6xzrTOt868zrHPis66zq4g?= =?utf-8?b?z4fPgc6/zr3Ouc6sIGFuZCBzdHVmZg==?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello ??? ??? ????! ??? ??? ???????, ?? ??? ????? ?? ??????? ???????? ???????? ???? ???? ???????? ????? ???????? ?? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ????????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ?????????. ????? ?? ?? ??? ???????? ?????????????? ?????? ?? ???? ?????? (????????????? ?? ????? ??? ?? ?????? ??? replies) ???? ?? ???????? ??? ??? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ???????? ???????? ???? ???? ? ???? ???? ????????? ??? ????? ?? ???? ??????. ?????? (??? ???? ????? ??? ?? 2? ?????? ??? mail ???) ????? ?? ??????? ?? ??????/????? ???????/???? ????? ???? ??? ?? ?????????, ???? ??????? ?????? ?? ????? ?? ????????? ????? ??? ?????????? ???? ??? ????????. ???? ????? ??? ??????? ???? ?????????, ????? ???? 100%, ?????? ?? ????? ?? ????? ?? ??? ????, ?? ??? ?????? ??? sysadmin-related. ?????, ??????? ?????????? ?????? ?? ????? ??? ?????????, ? ??????? ??'??? ??????? ???? ????? ???? ????????? ? ????? ??????? ??? ??? irc ???? ???? ???? timing ?? ????? ????????? ???????????. ??????, ?? ?????? ??? ?? ??????? 24/10 17:00+ ?????? ? ???????? ??? FSFE ??? ???.1, ???? ?? ????? ???? ???? ?????????????? ??? ??? ???? (??? ???? 99% ????? ?? ????? ??? ??? ????). ??????? On 10/17/2016 12:09 PM, Nikos Kormpakis wrote: > ????????? ??? ???? ?????????? ?????? ??? ????? ????????????? > ????? ?? ??????. > > 1) ????? 25/10 ?? ????? ???? ??????? ??????? ? ??????????? > ??????? ????????? ???????? ??? ??????, ???? ??'??? > ?????????? ???? ????? ???????? (eestec, ieee ???), ???? > ??? ? ?????????, ???? ????? ?????? ???????? ????????, > 2-3 ??????? ??????? ?? ?? ???????? ?????????, ??? ?????? > ???. ??????? ?????????? ?? ????? ???? ????? ??? ??? ?????????; > > 2) ???? ??? ??????? ? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ???? ???? ?? ?????? > ??? ???????? ??? ?????, ???? ?? ??? ????????? ?? 2 ??????? > ??? ?????? ??????????? ??? ?? ????? ???????, ?? ??????? ???. > > 3) ???????????? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ??????????? ?????? ???????? > ? ??? ?????????? ??? ??? ??? ?? ??????? ???????? ??? ??? ???? ??? > ??? ?? ?? ????? ??? ?????? ????????? (monitoring with free > software tools, puppet ??? ??????? ????). ?? ??????? ?????????? > ??? ?????, ???? ??? ?????? guidelines ???? ??? ??? ??? ????? > ???? ???? ??????, ?? ?? ??????????? ??? ?????. > > 4) ???? ?? ??????????? ?????? ????????? ??? ?????????? ???? > ?? ????? ??? ????, ??? ?? ??????????? ??? ??? ?????? ??? ???; > > ~?? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From antibra at hotmail.com Thu Oct 27 13:39:35 2016 From: antibra at hotmail.com (Yiorgos Marinellis) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 10:39:35 +0000 Subject: [foss-general] =?utf-8?b?zp/OvM65zrvOr86xIM6zzrnOsSBMaWJyZSBTcGFj?= =?utf-8?q?e_Foundation_-_UPSat?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10/27/2016 01:12 PM, Pierros Papadeas wrote: > Hello! > > ?? ?? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ??????? ?????????? (?? ??????????) ??? ??? > open source ???????? ??? ???????? ??? ??? Libre Space Foundation? > > ???? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ???? ??? foss ??? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ?? > ?? ????? host ?? foss.ntua > > ?? ????; > > ~? ???! ??? ??????? ????! ?? ?????? ??? ?? ?? ????????? ??? ?? ????? ??????? ?? ?? ???????????. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??????????. ~fedjo From sevsp at espiv.net Fri Oct 28 23:05:52 2016 From: sevsp at espiv.net (sevsp) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 23:05:52 +0300 Subject: [foss-general] =?utf-8?b?zp/OvM65zrvOr86xIM6zzrnOsSBMaWJyZSBTcGFj?= =?utf-8?q?e_Foundation_-_UPSat?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <437c2e37-bb46-b51b-c993-ef2d1d770475@espiv.net> +1 ?????? ????????????? ??????????, ??? ???? ??? ????? ??? ?? FSFE event. ?? ??? ??? ????? ???????? ?? ? ??? ???? ???? ???? (7 ?? ????????). On 27/10/2016 01:39 ??, Yiorgos Marinellis wrote: > On 10/27/2016 01:12 PM, Pierros Papadeas wrote: >> Hello! >> >> ?? ?? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ??????? ?????????? (?? ??????????) ??? ??? >> open source ???????? ??? ???????? ??? ??? Libre Space Foundation? >> >> ???? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ???? ??? foss ??? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ?? >> ?? ????? host ?? foss.ntua >> >> ?? ????; >> >> ~? > ???! > > ??? ??????? ????! > > ?? ?????? ??? ?? ?? ????????? ??? ?? ????? ??????? ?? ?? ???????????. > ??? ??? ??? ??? ??????????. > > > ~fedjo From orfeas at espiv.net Sat Oct 29 13:49:42 2016 From: orfeas at espiv.net (orfeas) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 11:49:42 +0100 Subject: [foss-general] Computers In-Reply-To: <8c3bd1ea-0b76-43ef-559b-e2839c0b3dc9@foss.ntua.gr> References: <9f45e201-e514-09d0-e550-dedbb9f8b46c@gmail.com> <20161016150111.53jn7wt4zl5k7jk5@d0g> <8c3bd1ea-0b76-43ef-559b-e2839c0b3dc9@foss.ntua.gr> Message-ID: <6149152d-f7f3-90df-71b7-43a6badb145a@espiv.net> ????? ?????, ?????? ??? ?? ???? ??? ????. ?????? ?? ???????????? ???? ?? ??? ????????. http://coding2learn.org/blog/2013/07/29/kids-cant-use-computers/ From gtsiour at softlab.ntua.gr Sun Oct 30 01:15:20 2016 From: gtsiour at softlab.ntua.gr (Yiannis Tsiouris) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 01:15:20 +0300 Subject: [foss-general] Computers In-Reply-To: <6149152d-f7f3-90df-71b7-43a6badb145a@espiv.net> References: <9f45e201-e514-09d0-e550-dedbb9f8b46c@gmail.com> <20161016150111.53jn7wt4zl5k7jk5@d0g> <8c3bd1ea-0b76-43ef-559b-e2839c0b3dc9@foss.ntua.gr> <6149152d-f7f3-90df-71b7-43a6badb145a@espiv.net> Message-ID: <20161029221520.dtq63wobxbm3nchi@d0g> lo On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 11:49:42AM +0100, orfeas wrote: > ????? ?????, ?????? ??? ?? ???? ??? ????. ?????? ?? ???????????? ???? ?? > ??? ????????. > > http://coding2learn.org/blog/2013/07/29/kids-cant-use-computers/ ???????? ?? ????! ??? ????? ??? ??????????? ????? like/share/rt! :] Hasta luego! From gtsiour at softlab.ntua.gr Sun Oct 30 01:16:42 2016 From: gtsiour at softlab.ntua.gr (Yiannis Tsiouris) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 01:16:42 +0300 Subject: [foss-general] =?utf-8?b?zp/OvM65zrvOr86xIM6zzrnOsSBMaWJyZSBTcGFj?= =?utf-8?q?e_Foundation_-_UPSat?= In-Reply-To: <437c2e37-bb46-b51b-c993-ef2d1d770475@espiv.net> References: <437c2e37-bb46-b51b-c993-ef2d1d770475@espiv.net> Message-ID: <20161029221642.ygja2qaprvbaaa7u@d0g> > > On 10/27/2016 01:12 PM, Pierros Papadeas wrote: > >> Hello! > >> > >> ?? ?? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ??????? ?????????? (?? ??????????) ??? ??? > >> open source ???????? ??? ???????? ??? ??? Libre Space Foundation? > >> > >> ???? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ???? ??? foss ??? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ?? > >> ?? ????? host ?? foss.ntua > >> > >> ?? ????; ???? ?? ???, ???????! ??????? ??! ?? ?????? ??? ??? "?????????" ??? ??????? ??? ??????????; ???? ?? ??? ?????????? ???? ???! Ch(B)eers! From l.mourikis at ctlab.gr Sun Oct 30 18:27:34 2016 From: l.mourikis at ctlab.gr (Lefteris Mourikis) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 16:27:34 +0000 Subject: [foss-general] Computers In-Reply-To: <20161029221520.dtq63wobxbm3nchi@d0g> References: <9f45e201-e514-09d0-e550-dedbb9f8b46c@gmail.com> <20161016150111.53jn7wt4zl5k7jk5@d0g> <8c3bd1ea-0b76-43ef-559b-e2839c0b3dc9@foss.ntua.gr> <6149152d-f7f3-90df-71b7-43a6badb145a@espiv.net> <20161029221520.dtq63wobxbm3nchi@d0g> Message-ID: ?????? ????? ???? hater, ???? ?????? ????? ???? ??? ???????? ?? network administration. ?? ?????? ????? ??????? ??? ????? ????? ?? ???? ?? ??? ???? ????? ????? ????, ?? ??? ??? ???????????? ???? ??? ??? ???????????? ???? ???????????? ??? ?????????, ?? ??????????, ???. ??????, ?????? ??????? ???? ?? ??? ?????????? ?????? ??? ????? ???? ?????? ??? ???????????? ???????????? ?? ????? "He/She cannot use a general purpose computer". ????? ? "?????" ????? ???????. ????? ??? ???? ?????? ????????? ????? ??? ??? ?????????? ? ?? ??????????? ???, ????? ??????????? ???????? ??? 20-30 ??????, ????? ?????? ????? ??? ????????? ??? air-condition ???;; ???, ?? ???????? ?? ??????????????? ?? ?????????? ? ?? ??????????? ???, ?? ?????? ?? ?????????????? ??? ????????? ??????? ??? ?? ?????? ?? ?????????? ?? air-condition ???. ?? ?? ??? ???, ? ??????????? ?? ????! ;) ???????? ???????? l.mourikis at ctlab.gr http://www.ctlab.gr ?Turn green! Do you really need to print this email? -----Original Message----- From: foss-general [mailto:foss-general-bounces at lists.ntua.gr] On Behalf Of Yiannis Tsiouris Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 1:15 AM To: foss-general at lists.ntua.gr Subject: Re: [foss-general] Computers lo On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 11:49:42AM +0100, orfeas wrote: > ????? ?????, ?????? ??? ?? ???? ??? ????. ?????? ?? ???????????? ???? > ?? ??? ????????. > > http://coding2learn.org/blog/2013/07/29/kids-cant-use-computers/ ???????? ?? ????! ??? ????? ??? ??????????? ????? like/share/rt! :] Hasta luego! _______________________________________________ foss-general mailing list foss-general at lists.ntua.gr https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general From orfeas at espiv.net Sun Oct 30 18:48:16 2016 From: orfeas at espiv.net (orfeas) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 16:48:16 +0000 Subject: [foss-general] Computers In-Reply-To: References: <9f45e201-e514-09d0-e550-dedbb9f8b46c@gmail.com> <20161016150111.53jn7wt4zl5k7jk5@d0g> <8c3bd1ea-0b76-43ef-559b-e2839c0b3dc9@foss.ntua.gr> <6149152d-f7f3-90df-71b7-43a6badb145a@espiv.net> <20161029221520.dtq63wobxbm3nchi@d0g> Message-ID: ???? ?? ????? ??? ? ????? ??? ?????? ?????? ???? ??? ?? hate ??????? ??? ???? ??? ???????? ??????? ??? ???? concept ??? foss. ?? aircondition ??? ????????/????????? ?? ?????, ?? ?????????? ?? ???? ????????? ??? ?????????? ???. ????? ?? ?? ??? ?????? ??? ???????? ????, ?????? ???? ???? ?? ?????. ?? ?????? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ??????????? ??? ?? ????? ?? ??????? ??? ??? ?????? ?,?? ?? ????? ?? ????? ???? ????? ???????. ? ??????????? ??? ???? ????? ???????? ??????? ??? ??? ??????. ??? ???? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????????? ?????????. ??? ??????? profiling??? ?? fb ??? ?????? ?,?? ???????? ??? ?? ?????????, ???????? ??? ??? ??? ????? ????????? ??? ????????????. ?? aircondition ??? ?? ????? ????. ??? ???? ????? ??? ?? ??????. ???????? ?????? ?????? ???? ????? ??? ???????????. ??? ??? ???????? ????? ?? ?????????? ???? ???? ?? ???????????????, ???? ?????? ?? ?? ?????????????. ?? ??????? ??? ??? ?????????????? ??????? ??? ??????? ????????????? ??? ????????? ???? ?? ?????????? ????????? ?????? ?? ??? google ?? ????? ?? ????? ????? ?????, ?? ??? apple ?? ??? ??????? ??? ?????????? ???????? ??? ?? ????????? ??? ???? ( https://www.appsee.com/ ) ?? ??????????? ?? ?????? ??? ?????? ??? "provides in-depth analysis of your users' behavior". ?????? ?? ??? ??????? ?? ???????? ??????, ???? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ????????? ??? ????? ?? ???????? ?? ???? ???????? "??? ??? ???????? ???", ??????? ?? ???????????. ?? iphone ???? ????? ?? ??????????; ? ??????????? ???? ???? ???? ???? (???? ?? ??????? ??? ???????????): ?? ??????? ???? ??????????? ???????? ??? ???????? ??? ??? ?????? ??? ?? ??????? ?? ????????? ????? ?? ???? ?????. On 30/10/16 16:27, Lefteris Mourikis wrote: > ?????? ????? ???? hater, ???? ?????? ????? ???? ??? ???????? ?? network administration. ?? ?????? ????? ??????? ??? ????? ????? ?? ???? ?? ??? ???? ????? ????? ????, ?? ??? ??? ???????????? ???? ??? ??? ???????????? ???? ???????????? ??? ?????????, ?? ??????????, ???. > > ??????, ?????? ??????? ???? ?? ??? ?????????? ?????? ??? ????? ???? ?????? ??? ???????????? ???????????? ?? ????? "He/She cannot use a general purpose computer". ????? ? "?????" ????? ???????. ????? ??? ???? ?????? ????????? ????? ??? ??? ?????????? ? ?? ??????????? ???, ????? ??????????? ???????? ??? 20-30 ??????, ????? ?????? ????? ??? ????????? ??? air-condition ???;; ???, ?? ???????? ?? ??????????????? ?? ?????????? ? ?? ??????????? ???, ?? ?????? ?? ?????????????? ??? ????????? ??????? ??? ?? ?????? ?? ?????????? ?? air-condition ???. ?? ?? ??? ???, ? ??????????? ?? ????! ;) > > ???????? ???????? > > l.mourikis at ctlab.gr > http://www.ctlab.gr > Turn green! Do you really need to print this email? > > -----Original Message----- > From: foss-general [mailto:foss-general-bounces at lists.ntua.gr] On Behalf Of Yiannis Tsiouris > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 1:15 AM > To: foss-general at lists.ntua.gr > Subject: Re: [foss-general] Computers > > lo > > On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 11:49:42AM +0100, orfeas wrote: >> ????? ?????, ?????? ??? ?? ???? ??? ????. ?????? ?? ???????????? ???? >> ?? ??? ????????. >> >> http://coding2learn.org/blog/2013/07/29/kids-cant-use-computers/ > ???????? ?? ????! ??? ????? ??? ??????????? ????? like/share/rt! :] > > Hasta luego! > _______________________________________________ > foss-general mailing list > foss-general at lists.ntua.gr > https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general > > _______________________________________________ > foss-general mailing list > foss-general at lists.ntua.gr > https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general From l.mourikis at ctlab.gr Sun Oct 30 19:15:53 2016 From: l.mourikis at ctlab.gr (Lefteris Mourikis) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 17:15:53 +0000 Subject: [foss-general] Computers In-Reply-To: References: <9f45e201-e514-09d0-e550-dedbb9f8b46c@gmail.com> <20161016150111.53jn7wt4zl5k7jk5@d0g> <8c3bd1ea-0b76-43ef-559b-e2839c0b3dc9@foss.ntua.gr> <6149152d-f7f3-90df-71b7-43a6badb145a@espiv.net> <20161029221520.dtq63wobxbm3nchi@d0g> Message-ID: ???????? ?????? ??? ???????????? ???????? ? ????? ???? ?? ????? ??? ?????? ???? ????? ??? ???????? ???? ??? ???????? ???? ???? ??? libre software. ????? ?? ????? ?? ????????? ??? 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"??? ????? ?? ?? ??? popup ????? ?? ??????? ?? ?????? ??????"; ??? ?????????? ???? ??? ?? ???????? ??????????? ?????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??? ??????. ?? ?????? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ????? ?????? ?? ??????? ?? ???? ?????? ??? ???. ?? ??? ??????? ????? ???? ?????? ?? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ??? ????????. ???? ????? ? ??????????? ??? ?? ??? ????????????? ??? ?????? ?????. ??? ?? ?? ????? ???? ?????? ? ?? ??????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ???????. _______________________________________________ foss-general mailing list foss-general at lists.ntua.gr https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general From orfeas at espiv.net Sun Oct 30 22:32:42 2016 From: orfeas at espiv.net (orfeas) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 20:32:42 +0000 Subject: [foss-general] Computers In-Reply-To: References: <9f45e201-e514-09d0-e550-dedbb9f8b46c@gmail.com> <20161016150111.53jn7wt4zl5k7jk5@d0g> <8c3bd1ea-0b76-43ef-559b-e2839c0b3dc9@foss.ntua.gr> <6149152d-f7f3-90df-71b7-43a6badb145a@espiv.net> <20161029221520.dtq63wobxbm3nchi@d0g> <4524ada2-d68c-70e9-8592-f3fd0bc57a89@foss.ntua.gr> Message-ID: <5de15166-5260-0514-a81a-3f1c0e7363d2@espiv.net> ????? ?? big sort; ?????? ??? ????. ????????? 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From l.mourikis at ctlab.gr Sun Oct 30 23:50:15 2016 From: l.mourikis at ctlab.gr (Lefteris Mourikis) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 21:50:15 +0000 Subject: [foss-general] Computers In-Reply-To: <95015b00-10b8-dde2-56bb-e60b22be56da@foss.ntua.gr> References: <9f45e201-e514-09d0-e550-dedbb9f8b46c@gmail.com> <20161016150111.53jn7wt4zl5k7jk5@d0g> <8c3bd1ea-0b76-43ef-559b-e2839c0b3dc9@foss.ntua.gr> <6149152d-f7f3-90df-71b7-43a6badb145a@espiv.net> <20161029221520.dtq63wobxbm3nchi@d0g> <4524ada2-d68c-70e9-8592-f3fd0bc57a89@foss.ntua.gr> <5de15166-5260-0514-a81a-3f1c0e7363d2@espiv.net> <95015b00-10b8-dde2-56bb-e60b22be56da@foss.ntua.gr> Message-ID: ??. ?? ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ???? ????? ???????? ?? ???? ??? ??????. ????? ?? ?????????? ??? proxy. ?? ????? ??? ????? ??????? ?? ????. ???? ???? ????????: - ????????? ??? ????????? - ??????/???????????/??????????? ???? ?????? ??? - ??????????? ???? ??? ?? ???????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ?? ????????? ??????????? ??? ???? ????????; ?? ??? ????? ????? ??? ???????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??????????? ??? ?? ?????, ?????? ?? ?? ??? ??? 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"???????" ???? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ??? ?? ?????? ??? ???????? ??. _______________________________________________ foss-general mailing list foss-general at lists.ntua.gr https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general From orfeas at espiv.net Mon Oct 31 01:10:15 2016 From: orfeas at espiv.net (orfeas) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 23:10:15 +0000 Subject: [foss-general] Computers In-Reply-To: References: <9f45e201-e514-09d0-e550-dedbb9f8b46c@gmail.com> <20161016150111.53jn7wt4zl5k7jk5@d0g> <8c3bd1ea-0b76-43ef-559b-e2839c0b3dc9@foss.ntua.gr> <6149152d-f7f3-90df-71b7-43a6badb145a@espiv.net> <20161029221520.dtq63wobxbm3nchi@d0g> <4524ada2-d68c-70e9-8592-f3fd0bc57a89@foss.ntua.gr> <5de15166-5260-0514-a81a-3f1c0e7363d2@espiv.net> <95015b00-10b8-dde2-56bb-e60b22be56da@foss.ntua.gr> Message-ID: <523e2f13-eb02-a02d-8e9c-c2827e2c2c1a@espiv.net> ??? ???? ??? ?????? ??????????. ???? ??? ??????? ?? ????????? ??? ??? ??? ? mandragore ??? ????? ??? ?? ??????????? ????? ?? ???????????? ????? ??? ??????, ???? ??? ????? ???? ??? ???????? ??? ??? ???? ???? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??????????? ??' ??? ??????????? ? ????? ????????. ??? ??????? ??? ???????? ?????????? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????????? ???? ?? ???????. ? ??????? ?????????? ??' ???? ??? ?????? ????????. ?? ???????????? ??? ????? ???? ?????, ????? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ????????? ?????????: - ????? ???? ???????, ?? ?????????? ?? ???????? ????? ???? ???????. - ????? ? ????? ? ?????? ????? ?????, ???? ????? ?? ????????. ?? ?? ???????; ??? ??? ?????? ?? ???????? ?? ??????? ???????. 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Do you really need to print this email? > > -----Original Message----- > From: foss-general [mailto:foss-general-bounces at lists.ntua.gr] On Behalf Of mandragore > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:27 PM > To: foss-general at lists.ntua.gr > Subject: Re: [foss-general] Computers > > ????????? ??? ?????????? ??? proxy ?? ?????? ??? ???? ????????? ??? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??? ???????? ??? ???????????. > > ???? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ?????. ????? ?? ??? ?????? ????????? ????? ??? ?? ????? ????????? ??? ??? ?????? ?? ??????? ??????? ?????. ??????? ???? ??? ????????? ???????. > > ? ??????????? ??? ????? ??? ???????? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ???????? ???? ?? ?????????????? ??????????? ??? ???????. ?????? ??? ??? ?? ???????? ??????? ??? ?????, ?? ?????????? ??????? ??? ???????? ??????? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? ???. > > ???? ????? ??? ??????? ???????? ? ??????? ???, ???? ????? tech savy ???? ???, ?? 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"???????" ???? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ??? ?? ?????? ??? ???????? ??. > > > _______________________________________________ > foss-general mailing list > foss-general at lists.ntua.gr > https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general > > _______________________________________________ > foss-general mailing list > foss-general at lists.ntua.gr > https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general From l.mourikis at ctlab.gr Mon Oct 31 08:05:56 2016 From: l.mourikis at ctlab.gr (Lefteris Mourikis) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 06:05:56 +0000 Subject: [foss-general] Computers In-Reply-To: <523e2f13-eb02-a02d-8e9c-c2827e2c2c1a@espiv.net> References: <9f45e201-e514-09d0-e550-dedbb9f8b46c@gmail.com> <20161016150111.53jn7wt4zl5k7jk5@d0g> <8c3bd1ea-0b76-43ef-559b-e2839c0b3dc9@foss.ntua.gr> <6149152d-f7f3-90df-71b7-43a6badb145a@espiv.net> <20161029221520.dtq63wobxbm3nchi@d0g> <4524ada2-d68c-70e9-8592-f3fd0bc57a89@foss.ntua.gr> <5de15166-5260-0514-a81a-3f1c0e7363d2@espiv.net> <95015b00-10b8-dde2-56bb-e60b22be56da@foss.ntua.gr> <523e2f13-eb02-a02d-8e9c-c2827e2c2c1a@espiv.net> Message-ID: ???, ??????? ???????. ???????? ???????? l.mourikis at ctlab.gr http://www.ctlab.gr ?Turn green! Do you really need to print this email? -----Original Message----- From: foss-general [mailto:foss-general-bounces at lists.ntua.gr] On Behalf Of orfeas Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:10 AM To: foss-general at lists.ntua.gr Subject: Re: [foss-general] Computers ??? ???? ??? ?????? ??????????. ???? ??? ??????? ?? ????????? ??? ??? ??? ? mandragore ??? ????? ??? ?? ??????????? ????? ?? ???????????? ????? ??? ??????, ???? ??? ????? ???? ??? ???????? ??? ??? ???? ???? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??????????? ??' ??? ??????????? ? ????? ????????. ??? ??????? ??? ???????? ?????????? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????????? ???? ?? ???????. ? ??????? ?????????? ??' ???? ??? ?????? ????????. ?? ???????????? ??? ????? ???? ?????, ????? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ????????? ?????????: - ????? ???? ???????, ?? ?????????? ?? ???????? ????? ???? ???????. - ????? ? ????? ? ?????? ????? ?????, ???? ????? ?? ????????. ?? ?? ???????; ??? ??? ?????? ?? ???????? ?? ??????? ???????. On 30/10/16 21:50, Lefteris Mourikis wrote: > ??. ?? ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ???? ????? ???????? ?? ???? ??? ??????. ????? ?? ?????????? ??? proxy. ?? ????? ??? ????? ??????? ?? ????. > > ???? ???? ????????: > > - ????????? ??? ????????? > - ??????/???????????/??????????? ???? ?????? ??? > - ??????????? > > ???? ??? ?? ???????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ?? ????????? ??????????? ??? ???? ????????; ?? ??? ????? ????? ??? ???????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??????????? ??? ?? ?????, ?????? ?? ?? ??? ??? "???????????" ??????? ?? ?????? "?????? ??? 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Do you really need to print this email? > > -----Original Message----- > From: foss-general [mailto:foss-general-bounces at lists.ntua.gr] On > Behalf Of mandragore > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:27 PM > To: foss-general at lists.ntua.gr > Subject: Re: [foss-general] Computers > > ????????? ??? ?????????? ??? proxy ?? ?????? ??? ???? ????????? ??? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??? ???????? ??? ???????????. > > ???? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ?????. ????? ?? ??? ?????? ????????? ????? ??? ?? ????? ????????? ??? ??? ?????? ?? ??????? ??????? ?????. ??????? ???? ??? ????????? ???????. > > ? ??????????? ??? ????? ??? ???????? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ???????? ???? ?? ?????????????? ??????????? ??? ???????. ?????? ??? ??? ?? ???????? ??????? ??? ?????, ?? ?????????? ??????? ??? ???????? ??????? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? ???. > > ???? ????? ??? ??????? ???????? ? ??????? ???, ???? ????? tech savy ???? ???, ?? "????? ??? ???????????". ?? ??? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?????. > > ?????????? ??? ??? ?? ??????????. ?? ???????????? ???? ??? ?? ?? ????? ???? ?? ???????? ?????????? ????? ??? ???? ?? ????? ????? ?????? ???????? ???????? ????????? ??? ??? ????????? ???????? ????? ??? ??????????. > > ???? *??????* ? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ?? "????? ??? ??????????". > ??? ????? ????? ??? ????????? ??? ??? ??????????? ?????? ???? ????? ?? ??? ???????? ?? ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ????. ??? ???? ???? ??? ??????????????? ????????, ???? ???? ?????????? ???? ?????? ????? ?????? ?????? ??? "???????" ???? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ??? ?? ?????? ??? ???????? ??. > > > _______________________________________________ > foss-general mailing list > foss-general at lists.ntua.gr > https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general > > _______________________________________________ > foss-general mailing list > foss-general at lists.ntua.gr > https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general _______________________________________________ foss-general mailing list foss-general at lists.ntua.gr https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general From orfeas at espiv.net Mon Oct 31 15:17:28 2016 From: orfeas at espiv.net (orfeas) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:17:28 +0000 Subject: [foss-general] Computers In-Reply-To: References: <20161016150111.53jn7wt4zl5k7jk5@d0g> <8c3bd1ea-0b76-43ef-559b-e2839c0b3dc9@foss.ntua.gr> <6149152d-f7f3-90df-71b7-43a6badb145a@espiv.net> <20161029221520.dtq63wobxbm3nchi@d0g> <4524ada2-d68c-70e9-8592-f3fd0bc57a89@foss.ntua.gr> <5de15166-5260-0514-a81a-3f1c0e7363d2@espiv.net> <95015b00-10b8-dde2-56bb-e60b22be56da@foss.ntua.gr> <523e2f13-eb02-a02d-8e9c-c2827e2c2c1a@espiv.net> Message-ID: <5c0ade60-4905-74b6-f142-84016e247e6a@espiv.net> ????? ? ?????? ????????? ??????? ???????????? ???? ???? ?????????? ???? ??????? ??? foss ntua, ??? ????????? ??? ??????????????? ??? ????? ??? EM? ??? ?? ??????? ???????? ??? ???????? ??? ??????????? ??? ??? ????????. ???????? ????? ??????? ??? ???????????? ?? ???????? ???? ?? ???????? ??? ????? ??? ????, ???? ???? ??? ????? ???? ?? ??????? ??? ?????????? ??? ??? ???. On 31/10/16 06:05, Lefteris Mourikis wrote: > ???, ??????? ???????. > > ???????? ???????? > > l.mourikis at ctlab.gr > http://www.ctlab.gr > Turn green! Do you really need to print this email? > > -----Original Message----- > From: foss-general [mailto:foss-general-bounces at lists.ntua.gr] On Behalf Of orfeas > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:10 AM > To: foss-general at lists.ntua.gr > Subject: Re: [foss-general] Computers > > ??? ???? ??? ?????? ??????????. ???? ??? ??????? ?? ????????? ??? ??? ??? ? mandragore ??? ????? ??? ?? ??????????? ????? ?? ???????????? ????? ??? ??????, ???? ??? ????? ???? ??? ???????? ??? ??? ???? ???? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??????????? ??' ??? ??????????? ? ????? ????????. ??? ??????? ??? ???????? ?????????? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????????? ???? ?? ???????. ? ??????? ?????????? ??' ???? ??? ?????? ????????. ?? ???????????? ??? ????? ???? ?????, ????? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ????????? > ?????????: > > - ????? ???? ???????, ?? ?????????? ?? ???????? ????? ???? ???????. > > - ????? ? ????? ? ?????? ????? ?????, ???? ????? ?? ????????. ?? ?? ???????; > > ??? ??? ?????? ?? ???????? ?? ??????? ???????. > > On 30/10/16 21:50, Lefteris Mourikis wrote: >> ??. ?? ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ???? ????? ???????? ?? ???? ??? ??????. ????? ?? ?????????? ??? proxy. ?? ????? ??? ????? ??????? ?? ????. >> >> ???? ???? ????????: >> >> - ????????? ??? ????????? >> - ??????/???????????/??????????? ???? ?????? ??? >> - ??????????? >> >> ???? ??? ?? ???????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ?? ????????? ??????????? ??? ???? ????????; ?? ??? ????? ????? ??? ???????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??????????? ??? ?? ?????, ?????? ?? ?? ??? ??? 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Do you really need to print this email? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: foss-general [mailto:foss-general-bounces at lists.ntua.gr] On >> Behalf Of mandragore >> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:27 PM >> To: foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >> Subject: Re: [foss-general] Computers >> >> ????????? ??? ?????????? ??? proxy ?? ?????? ??? ???? ????????? ??? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??? ???????? ??? ???????????. >> >> ???? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ?????. ????? ?? ??? ?????? ????????? ????? ??? ?? ????? ????????? ??? ??? ?????? ?? ??????? ??????? ?????. ??????? ???? ??? ????????? ???????. >> >> ? ??????????? ??? ????? ??? ???????? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ???????? ???? ?? ?????????????? ??????????? ??? ???????. ?????? ??? ??? ?? ???????? ??????? ??? ?????, ?? ?????????? ??????? ??? ???????? ??????? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? ???. >> >> ???? ????? ??? ??????? ???????? ? ??????? ???, ???? ????? tech savy ???? ???, ?? "????? ??? ???????????". ?? ??? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?????. >> >> ?????????? ??? ??? ?? ??????????. ?? ???????????? ???? ??? ?? ?? ????? ???? ?? ???????? ?????????? ????? ??? ???? ?? ????? ????? ?????? ???????? ???????? ????????? ??? ??? ????????? ???????? ????? ??? ??????????. >> >> ???? *??????* ? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ?? "????? ??? ??????????". >> ??? ????? ????? ??? ????????? ??? ??? ??????????? ?????? ???? ????? ?? ??? ???????? ?? ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ????. ??? ???? ???? ??? ??????????????? ????????, ???? ???? ?????????? ???? ?????? ????? ?????? ?????? ??? "???????" ???? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ??? ?? ?????? ??? ???????? ??. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foss-general mailing list >> foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >> https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foss-general mailing list >> foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >> https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general > _______________________________________________ > foss-general mailing list > foss-general at lists.ntua.gr > https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general > > _______________________________________________ > foss-general mailing list > foss-general at lists.ntua.gr > https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general From antibra at hotmail.com Mon Oct 31 15:45:00 2016 From: antibra at hotmail.com (Yiorgos Marinellis) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:45:00 +0000 Subject: [foss-general] Computers In-Reply-To: <5c0ade60-4905-74b6-f142-84016e247e6a@espiv.net> References: <6149152d-f7f3-90df-71b7-43a6badb145a@espiv.net> <20161029221520.dtq63wobxbm3nchi@d0g> <4524ada2-d68c-70e9-8592-f3fd0bc57a89@foss.ntua.gr> <5de15166-5260-0514-a81a-3f1c0e7363d2@espiv.net> <95015b00-10b8-dde2-56bb-e60b22be56da@foss.ntua.gr> <523e2f13-eb02-a02d-8e9c-c2827e2c2c1a@espiv.net> <5c0ade60-4905-74b6-f142-84016e247e6a@espiv.net> Message-ID: By the way, ??? ??? ??? ???? ?? ???????? ??? ????? ???? ?? mail ??? ???????. ???? ?????? ????? On 10/31/2016 03:17 PM, orfeas wrote: > ????? ? ?????? ????????? ??????? ???????????? ???? ???? ?????????? ???? > ??????? ??? foss ntua, ??? ????????? ??? ??????????????? ??? ????? ??? > EM? ??? ?? ??????? ???????? ??? ???????? ??? ??????????? ??? ??? > ????????. ???????? ????? ??????? ??? ???????????? ?? ???????? ???? ?? > ???????? ??? ????? ??? ????, ???? ???? ??? ????? ???? ?? ??????? ??? > ?????????? ??? ??? ???. > > > On 31/10/16 06:05, Lefteris Mourikis wrote: >> ???, ??????? ???????. >> >> ???????? ???????? >> >> l.mourikis at ctlab.gr >> http://www.ctlab.gr >> Turn green! Do you really need to print this email? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: foss-general [mailto:foss-general-bounces at lists.ntua.gr] On Behalf Of orfeas >> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:10 AM >> To: foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >> Subject: Re: [foss-general] Computers >> >> ??? ???? ??? ?????? ??????????. ???? ??? ??????? ?? ????????? ??? ??? ??? ? mandragore ??? ????? ??? ?? ??????????? ????? ?? ???????????? ????? ??? ??????, ???? ??? ????? ???? ??? ???????? ??? ??? ???? ???? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??????????? ??' ??? ??????????? ? ????? ????????. ??? ??????? ??? ???????? ?????????? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????????? ???? ?? ???????. ? ??????? ?????????? ??' ???? ??? ?????? ????????. ?? ???????????? ??? ????? ???? ?????, ????? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ????????? >> ?????????: >> >> - ????? ???? ???????, ?? ?????????? ?? ???????? ????? ???? ???????. >> >> - ????? ? ????? ? ?????? ????? ?????, ???? ????? ?? ????????. ?? ?? ???????; >> >> ??? ??? ?????? ?? ???????? ?? ??????? ???????. >> >> On 30/10/16 21:50, Lefteris Mourikis wrote: >>> ??. ?? ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ???? ????? ???????? ?? ???? ??? ??????. ????? ?? ?????????? ??? proxy. ?? ????? ??? ????? ??????? ?? ????. >>> >>> ???? ???? ????????: >>> >>> - ????????? ??? ????????? >>> - ??????/???????????/??????????? ???? ?????? ??? >>> - ??????????? >>> >>> ???? ??? ?? ???????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ?? ????????? ??????????? ??? ???? ????????; ?? ??? ????? ????? ??? ???????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??????????? ??? ?? ?????, ?????? ?? ?? ??? ??? 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(???? ??? ?? finrod ?? nickname) ??? ???? ???? ?????? ???????? ??? ?????????? ? ????????! >>> >>> ? ?????? ????????? ??? ?? ?????? ?? ?????????? ??? ? ??????????? ??? ????? ??? ?????????, ????? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ??? ?????, ?????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ???????? ???????? ??? ?? ???? ??? ??? ????? ??? ??? ?????????? ????! ??? ??? ??? ???????? ?? ??? ?????????? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ???????????, ????? ????? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ??????????? ???? 1.000 ???????? ??? ?? ???? ?????. >>> >>> ??? ??????? ???? ???????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ????? ?????? ?? ??????? ???? ?????????? ?? ???? ???????? ??? ???????? ???????? ????????? ???? ?????? ???? ?????????????? ????? ?????? ????????????? ??? ???? ??? ??????? ???? ???? ?????????? ??? ??????????????. >>> >>> ???????? ???????? >>> >>> l.mourikis at ctlab.gr >>> http://www.ctlab.gr >>> Turn green! Do you really need to print this email? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: foss-general [mailto:foss-general-bounces at lists.ntua.gr] On >>> Behalf Of mandragore >>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:27 PM >>> To: foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >>> Subject: Re: [foss-general] Computers >>> >>> ????????? ??? ?????????? ??? proxy ?? ?????? ??? ???? ????????? ??? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??? ???????? ??? ???????????. >>> >>> ???? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ?????. ????? ?? ??? ?????? ????????? ????? ??? ?? ????? ????????? ??? ??? ?????? ?? ??????? ??????? ?????. ??????? ???? ??? ????????? ???????. >>> >>> ? ??????????? ??? ????? ??? ???????? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ???????? ???? ?? ?????????????? ??????????? ??? ???????. ?????? ??? ??? ?? ???????? ??????? ??? ?????, ?? ?????????? ??????? ??? ???????? ??????? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? ???. >>> >>> ???? ????? ??? ??????? ???????? ? ??????? ???, ???? ????? tech savy ???? ???, ?? "????? ??? ???????????". ?? ??? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?????. >>> >>> ?????????? ??? ??? ?? ??????????. ?? ???????????? ???? ??? ?? ?? ????? ???? ?? ???????? ?????????? ????? ??? ???? ?? ????? ????? ?????? ???????? ???????? ????????? ??? ??? ????????? ???????? ????? ??? ??????????. >>> >>> ???? *??????* ? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ?? "????? ??? ??????????". >>> ??? ????? ????? ??? ????????? ??? ??? ??????????? ?????? ???? ????? ?? ??? ???????? ?? ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ????. ??? ???? ???? ??? ??????????????? ????????, ???? ???? ?????????? ???? ?????? ????? ?????? ?????? ??? "???????" ???? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ??? ?? ?????? ??? ???????? ??. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> foss-general mailing list >>> foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >>> https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> foss-general mailing list >>> foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >>> https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general >> _______________________________________________ >> foss-general mailing list >> foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >> https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foss-general mailing list >> foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >> https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general > _______________________________________________ > foss-general mailing list > foss-general at lists.ntua.gr > https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general From orfeas at espiv.net Mon Oct 31 15:55:42 2016 From: orfeas at espiv.net (orfeas) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 13:55:42 +0000 Subject: [foss-general] Computers In-Reply-To: References: <20161029221520.dtq63wobxbm3nchi@d0g> <4524ada2-d68c-70e9-8592-f3fd0bc57a89@foss.ntua.gr> <5de15166-5260-0514-a81a-3f1c0e7363d2@espiv.net> <95015b00-10b8-dde2-56bb-e60b22be56da@foss.ntua.gr> <523e2f13-eb02-a02d-8e9c-c2827e2c2c1a@espiv.net> <5c0ade60-4905-74b6-f142-84016e247e6a@espiv.net> Message-ID: <6e711757-2b23-13fe-2b6c-e5eb67d7bc02@espiv.net> ???? ?? linux :P On 31/10/16 13:45, Yiorgos Marinellis wrote: > By the way, ??? ??? ??? ???? ?? ???????? ??? ????? ???? ?? mail ??? ???????. > > ???? ?????? ????? > > On 10/31/2016 03:17 PM, orfeas wrote: >> ????? ? ?????? ????????? ??????? ???????????? ???? ???? ?????????? ???? >> ??????? ??? foss ntua, ??? ????????? ??? ??????????????? ??? ????? ??? >> EM? ??? ?? ??????? ???????? ??? ???????? ??? ??????????? ??? ??? >> ????????. ???????? ????? ??????? ??? ???????????? ?? ???????? ???? ?? >> ???????? ??? ????? ??? ????, ???? ???? ??? ????? ???? ?? ??????? ??? >> ?????????? ??? ??? ???. >> >> >> On 31/10/16 06:05, Lefteris Mourikis wrote: >>> ???, ??????? ???????. >>> >>> ???????? ???????? >>> >>> l.mourikis at ctlab.gr >>> http://www.ctlab.gr >>> Turn green! Do you really need to print this email? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: foss-general [mailto:foss-general-bounces at lists.ntua.gr] On Behalf Of orfeas >>> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:10 AM >>> To: foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >>> Subject: Re: [foss-general] Computers >>> >>> ??? ???? ??? ?????? ??????????. ???? ??? ??????? ?? ????????? ??? ??? ??? ? mandragore ??? ????? ??? ?? ??????????? ????? ?? ???????????? ????? ??? ??????, ???? ??? ????? ???? ??? ???????? ??? ??? ???? ???? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??????????? ??' ??? ??????????? ? ????? ????????. ??? ??????? ??? ???????? ?????????? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????????? ???? ?? ???????. ? ??????? ?????????? ??' ???? ??? ?????? ????????. ?? ???????????? ??? ????? ???? ?????, ????? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ????????? >>> ?????????: >>> >>> - ????? ???? ???????, ?? ?????????? ?? ???????? ????? ???? ???????. >>> >>> - ????? ? ????? ? ?????? ????? ?????, ???? ????? ?? ????????. ?? ?? ???????; >>> >>> ??? ??? ?????? ?? ???????? ?? ??????? ???????. >>> >>> On 30/10/16 21:50, Lefteris Mourikis wrote: >>>> ??. ?? ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ???? ????? ???????? ?? ???? ??? ??????. ????? ?? ?????????? ??? proxy. ?? ????? ??? ????? ??????? ?? ????. >>>> >>>> ???? ???? ????????: >>>> >>>> - ????????? ??? ????????? >>>> - ??????/???????????/??????????? ???? ?????? ??? >>>> - ??????????? >>>> >>>> ???? ??? ?? ???????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ?? ????????? ??????????? ??? ???? ????????; ?? ??? ????? ????? ??? ???????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??????????? ??? ?? ?????, ?????? ?? ?? ??? ??? 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(???? ??? ?? finrod ?? nickname) ??? ???? ???? ?????? ???????? ??? ?????????? ? ????????! >>>> >>>> ? ?????? ????????? ??? ?? ?????? ?? ?????????? ??? ? ??????????? ??? ????? ??? ?????????, ????? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ??? ?????, ?????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ???????? ???????? ??? ?? ???? ??? ??? ????? ??? ??? ?????????? ????! ??? ??? ??? ???????? ?? ??? ?????????? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ???????????, ????? ????? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ??????????? ???? 1.000 ???????? ??? ?? ???? ?????. >>>> >>>> ??? ??????? ???? ???????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ????? ?????? ?? ??????? ???? ?????????? ?? ???? ???????? ??? ???????? ???????? ????????? ???? ?????? ???? ?????????????? ????? ?????? ????????????? ??? ???? ??? ??????? ???? ???? ?????????? ??? ??????????????. >>>> >>>> ???????? ???????? >>>> >>>> l.mourikis at ctlab.gr >>>> http://www.ctlab.gr >>>> Turn green! Do you really need to print this email? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: foss-general [mailto:foss-general-bounces at lists.ntua.gr] On >>>> Behalf Of mandragore >>>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:27 PM >>>> To: foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >>>> Subject: Re: [foss-general] Computers >>>> >>>> ????????? ??? ?????????? ??? proxy ?? ?????? ??? ???? ????????? ??? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??? ???????? ??? ???????????. >>>> >>>> ???? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ?????. ????? ?? ??? ?????? ????????? ????? ??? ?? ????? ????????? ??? ??? ?????? ?? ??????? ??????? ?????. ??????? ???? ??? ????????? ???????. >>>> >>>> ? ??????????? ??? ????? ??? ???????? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ???????? ???? ?? ?????????????? ??????????? ??? ???????. ?????? ??? ??? ?? ???????? ??????? ??? ?????, ?? ?????????? ??????? ??? ???????? ??????? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? ???. >>>> >>>> ???? ????? ??? ??????? ???????? ? ??????? ???, ???? ????? tech savy ???? ???, ?? "????? ??? ???????????". ?? ??? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?????. >>>> >>>> ?????????? ??? ??? ?? ??????????. ?? ???????????? ???? ??? ?? ?? ????? ???? ?? ???????? ?????????? ????? ??? ???? ?? ????? ????? ?????? ???????? ???????? ????????? ??? ??? ????????? ???????? ????? ??? ??????????. >>>> >>>> ???? *??????* ? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ?? "????? ??? ??????????". >>>> ??? ????? ????? ??? ????????? ??? ??? ??????????? ?????? ???? ????? ?? ??? ???????? ?? ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ????. ??? ???? ???? ??? ??????????????? ????????, ???? ???? ?????????? ???? ?????? ????? ?????? ?????? ??? "???????" ???? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ??? ?? ?????? ??? ???????? ??. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> foss-general mailing list >>>> foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >>>> https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> foss-general mailing list >>>> foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >>>> https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general >>> _______________________________________________ >>> foss-general mailing list >>> foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >>> https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> foss-general mailing list >>> foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >>> https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general >> _______________________________________________ >> foss-general mailing list >> foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >> https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general > > _______________________________________________ > foss-general mailing list > foss-general at lists.ntua.gr > https://lists.ntua.gr/mailman/listinfo/foss-general From l.mourikis at ctlab.gr Mon Oct 31 21:33:06 2016 From: l.mourikis at ctlab.gr (Lefteris Mourikis) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 19:33:06 +0000 Subject: [foss-general] Computers In-Reply-To: References: <6149152d-f7f3-90df-71b7-43a6badb145a@espiv.net> <20161029221520.dtq63wobxbm3nchi@d0g> <4524ada2-d68c-70e9-8592-f3fd0bc57a89@foss.ntua.gr> <5de15166-5260-0514-a81a-3f1c0e7363d2@espiv.net> <95015b00-10b8-dde2-56bb-e60b22be56da@foss.ntua.gr> <523e2f13-eb02-a02d-8e9c-c2827e2c2c1a@espiv.net> <5c0ade60-4905-74b6-f142-84016e247e6a@espiv.net> Message-ID: ??? ????? ?? 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NTUA ?? ??? ???? ????? ?????! :p ???????? ???????? l.mourikis at ctlab.gr http://www.ctlab.gr ?Turn green! Do you really need to print this email? -----Original Message----- From: foss-general [mailto:foss-general-bounces at lists.ntua.gr] On Behalf Of Yiorgos Marinellis Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 3:45 PM To: foss-general at lists.ntua.gr Subject: Re: [foss-general] Computers By the way, ??? ??? ??? ???? ?? ???????? ??? ????? ???? ?? mail ??? ???????. ???? ?????? ????? On 10/31/2016 03:17 PM, orfeas wrote: > ????? ? ?????? ????????? ??????? ???????????? ???? ???? ?????????? > ???? ??????? ??? foss ntua, ??? ????????? ??? ??????????????? ??? > ????? ??? EM? ??? ?? ??????? ???????? ??? ???????? ??? ??????????? ??? > ??? ????????. ???????? ????? ??????? ??? ???????????? ?? ???????? ???? > ?? ???????? ??? ????? ??? ????, ???? ???? ??? ????? ???? ?? ??????? > ??? ?????????? ??? ??? ???. > > > On 31/10/16 06:05, Lefteris Mourikis wrote: >> ???, ??????? ???????. >> >> ???????? ???????? >> >> l.mourikis at ctlab.gr >> http://www.ctlab.gr >> Turn green! Do you really need to print this email? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: foss-general [mailto:foss-general-bounces at lists.ntua.gr] On >> Behalf Of orfeas >> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:10 AM >> To: foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >> Subject: Re: [foss-general] Computers >> >> ??? ???? ??? ?????? ??????????. ???? ??? ??????? ?? ????????? ??? ??? >> ??? ? mandragore ??? ????? ??? ?? ??????????? ????? ?? ???????????? >> ????? ??? ??????, ???? ??? ????? ???? ??? ???????? ??? ??? ???? ???? >> ??? ??? ??? ???? ??????????? ??' ??? ??????????? ? ????? ????????. >> ??? ??????? ??? ???????? ?????????? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ?? >> ??????????? ???? ?? ???????. ? ??????? ?????????? ??' ???? ??? ?????? >> ????????. ?? ???????????? ??? ????? ???? ?????, ????? ???? ??? ?????? >> ??? ????????? >> ?????????: >> >> - ????? ???? ???????, ?? ?????????? ?? ???????? ????? ???? ???????. >> >> - ????? ? ????? ? ?????? ????? ?????, ???? ????? ?? ????????. ?? ?? >> ???????; >> >> ??? ??? ?????? ?? ???????? ?? ??????? ???????. >> >> On 30/10/16 21:50, Lefteris Mourikis wrote: >>> ??. ?? ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ???? ????? ???????? ?? ???? ??? ??????. ????? ?? ?????????? ??? proxy. ?? ????? ??? ????? ??????? ?? ????. >>> >>> ???? ???? ????????: >>> >>> - ????????? ??? ????????? >>> - ??????/???????????/??????????? ???? ?????? ??? >>> - ??????????? >>> >>> ???? ??? ?? ???????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ?? ????????? ??????????? ??? ???? ????????; ?? ??? ????? ????? ??? ???????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??????????? ??? ?? ?????, ?????? ?? ?? ??? ??? 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Do you really need to print this email? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: foss-general [mailto:foss-general-bounces at lists.ntua.gr] On >>> Behalf Of mandragore >>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:27 PM >>> To: foss-general at lists.ntua.gr >>> Subject: Re: [foss-general] Computers >>> >>> ????????? ??? ?????????? ??? proxy ?? ?????? ??? ???? ????????? ??? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??? ???????? ??? ???????????. >>> >>> ???? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ?????. ????? ?? ??? ?????? ????????? ????? ??? ?? ????? ????????? ??? ??? ?????? ?? ??????? ??????? ?????. ??????? ???? ??? ????????? ???????. >>> >>> ? ??????????? ??? ????? ??? ???????? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ???????? ???? ?? ?????????????? ??????????? ??? ???????. ?????? ??? ??? ?? ???????? ??????? ??? ?????, ?? ?????????? ??????? ??? ???????? ??????? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? ???. >>> >>> ???? ????? ??? ??????? ???????? ? ??????? ???, ???? ????? tech savy ???? ???, ?? 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